Subs off by several seconds in a strange movie layout

Like the title says, the movie That I am trying to back up has a strange layout (explained below). I have been trying to back it up for 2 weeks now. I have read many post here, and tried several options including the InfiniFilm/BOV guide, even though this disc has neither. All three audio tracks are in sync, but the subtitles come around three to four seconds too late. Also, the chapter points are off, and they get off more and more as the one gets futher along in the video. Infact that when you select the chapter for the end credits, the video jumps to well after the credits have ended. This happens when I try to extract the data using the normal extract by PGC method. When imported into Scenarist, the cells under the Track editor tab and then clicking the plus by VTS01P01. The Cells are named VTS01_V3_C2. Is that the correct nameing sceme? If you look below, the reauthored VOBs become out of ordered. The layout: Format: NTSC It is an episode disc. All three episodes are in the same VTS, VTS 1 to be exact. Each episode is in it's own PGC. As follows: Code:

Well maybe and I say maybe there does exist a cell 1 which doesn't show up in the ifo (I've seen this once on spirited away). to find this out maybe you can do a cell demux on it? (no subs if I may advice you, cause that will take long. If this cell exists and is before the normal video this maybe a cause. DOn't worry about the numbering on the vobids they won't matter.

When I did a CellID demux on this disc, a dummy Cell called VobID 3 Cell ID 1 was created. I thought it was created just to keep the nameing structure of PGC 1. On regular PGC and VobID demux, there is no mention of a Cell called vobID 3 cellid 1. After doing a demux by cellid, how can I write a scp script to import this into scenarist, or do I need to do the importing manually? I know, it's a tough one to back up. That's why I thought I would post here to see if anyone can help me. Stiff

Try to import this cell manually and add it to your existing layout. Maybe it works You'll need to edit the ifo afterwards I think, to keep the correct lay-out

I had to delete all the demuxed files to concentrate on the DTS problem of the other DVD I posted about. Now that I have that cleared out, I re-demuxed the DVD using CellID, again. Fun! Some questions that I have in the above post can be answered. I noticed a video file for cells (3/01) and (3/26). Thinking that these were just fillers for that sector discrepancy I mentioned. However, I noticed that the audio file for cell (3/26) was delay corrected, So I open the video file, and it played. I opened up (3/01), and it played. There is actually valid video in those two cells. They're just a logo, but valid. The length of the video of (3/01) is the exact time that the Subs are out of sync. Strange thing is that these cells are not mentioned in any of the IFOs from the DVD. It's like they included the video but forgot all about it. Now all I need to do is import these cells, and tell Scanarist to forget about them. Which I have no idea how to do. I need the $100,000 dollar software that the professionals use. :P Stiff

Well exactly what I thought. STrange thing for sure. I think you can compile and edit the ifo afterwards, set the cell value to 0 or so. Just play a bit with it.

I reproduced the exact layout of the disc in DVD Maestro. I created three Playlists for the 3 different PGCs. However, DVD Maestro creates a default PGC that list every cell including Cells (3/01) and (3/26), So I can't use ATM mode because there are two more cells than the original. The other PGCs are spot on. There is one minor problem, Maestro puts all the cells into one Vob ID, so when I use IFOUpdate in DVD Maesto Mode I get a new IFO file that has all the cells in one Vob ID. The DVD refuses to Play like that. For the Audio tracks, I created a Sync audio track selecting the correct audio file for each cell. Is there any script that I can use to either a) delete the Mastro created PGC from the IFO so I can use Adjusted Cell Mode, or b) tell Maestro to create Vob IDs for the cells instead of putting them in one Vob ID so I can use IFOUpdate in DVD Maestro Mode? I seaarched the entire forum for help, but no satisfactory results for a DVD in my condition. There must be a way because Pros use this software to make DVDs for sale and the DVDs have multiple Vob IDs. Thanks, Stiff PS. You can see how long I've been working on this by the Delay time of my post.

I can't help you much with maestro. I always use scenarist myself

I could just cry! OK! Can anybody give me a few pointers on how to do this in either DVD Maestro or Sonic Scenarist or any other software program where there is a good functional trial version I can get (some trail versions limit what you can do)? Is there anybody that whats to write a custom DVD Muxer with me? Stiff

Stiffler. Can you email me that ifo... I'd love to take a look at it - D3s7