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Currently i see a lot of options in terms of container formats. Besides the obviously proprietary wmv and quicktime, the most important ones seem to be:AVI MKV OGM MP4 But which ones seem to be winning lately? If i were making a DVD player and already had .avi support, which container format would be the next logic thing to implement?

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03.08.22 - 15:31:55
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from those of your list .avi is already the most widely supported one apart from that .mp4 is the second most supported than comes .ogm with very few support and mkv with afaik none

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03.08.22 - 15:40:11
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Just checked something 

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03.08.22 - 15:51:40
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Hmm interesting. I just got an idea and took a short peak at thepiratebay.org searching for different extensions:avi: 30 pages of hits mp4: 11 pages of hits mkv: 5 pages of hits ogm: 2 pages of hits So mkv actually seems more wide-spread than ogm in there. But ofcourse that's just one website. ;) But it definately confirmes mp4 being the second most used container format. Hardware wise i can't help thinking of the obvious problems this poses to people playing back these files on a hardware device. According to your splendid mp4 FAQ, the mp4 container doesn't carry AC3 or DTS sound, thus making it impossible to use a surround reciever the normal way. Ofcourse AAC can do surround, but if you output AAC over SPDIF i hardly think any surround recievers will handle it?!? I wonder what will happen here in the future ... :confused:

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03.08.22 - 16:03:05
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the future and past is dvd and svcd, and hddvd/bluray

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03.08.22 - 16:12:22
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I have to say I don't know of any dedicated "stand-alone" player that supports the MKV container. I do know of quite a few that support the OGM container (sporting MediaTek chip-sets)! But as Bond mentioned, AVI still comes out top, followed by the MP4 container - my personal favourite :) EDIT: I generate MP4 encodes with either 6Ch AAC-LC and HE audio and pass the audio to my DSS amp via analogue.

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03.08.22 - 16:24:00
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on Harware MPEG's TS and PS format is the most widely supported format. For Computers are much other formats then the 4 you named(e.g. flv, nut, pva, nsv) that are more or less public or free specified. I think PS and TS will the most supported Multimedia Format for a long time, becuase ATSC, DVB, DVD, HDDVD, BlueRay and much other Multimedia systems based on them.

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03.08.22 - 16:28:30
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Well all hardware DVD players have to parse VOB, which is almost the completely the same as MPEG-PS so the likelyness that most players will support MPEG-PS is rather large.

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03.08.22 - 16:35:15
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MPEG PS and TS are supported by every DVD Player, ATSC digatial TV and DVB settopbox. VOB is a PS with some extras. SVCD uses PS, DVB and ATSC digatl is TS based transmission.

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03.08.22 - 16:39:48
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Only MP4 will survive in the end...

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03.08.22 - 16:50:03
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