:( The Paradigm of tech support. I attempted this again after your post darkstar...and I could not replicate it. I made the template it 2.55, and it worked fine in both 2.55 and 3alpha1. I then did it in alpha alone (just to see if it was an alpha bug) and I again could not replicate it. One thing I did notice though, was that when I loaded the track template the master/parent send was unticked on the containing track...which caused no output...this happened immediately after I saved it and then reloaded it. I guess if I replicate it, I will post. Thanks for the quick reply.